Worldly
In the terms of a follower of Christ, what is "wordly" where is "the flesh"?
Essentially as a follower of Christ, what is not of God, what needs to be given up when you seek Christ (Well I'd say you have to give up everything, but God seems to return redeemable stuff to us, otherwise we'd just have to sit in sterile rooms all day), what needs to be avoided?
As you start to tick off things in your own mind, thing about them for a second.
Put a mental star next to the things that you just personally don't like (stuff you're not into and don't think you'd be even if you weren't a Christian) and the things that are personally tempting to you.
Now think about things that don't fit those things, the things that the Bible speaks out on that aren't in your initial list and remember to be careful to note what the scripture actually says, not expounding. For instance if it tells you to avoid unclean things, see what unclean is by the Bible's own admittance, don't just make the jump and fill in that blank with things YOU think are unclean. Keep in mind to remember the context and setting of each prohibition, warning or condemnation (and remember that in relation to our relationship with Christ and the Law)
I think you'll find a much longer list there, then ask yourself where your definitions of worldly or fleshy things don't line up with what the Bible is actually calling out. What in your list doesn't fit the Bibles list? If it doesn't line up, should it be there?
Anymore I think we've hit this sort of ethnocentrisim or more specifically selfish way of defining what is worldly. I'm guilty of it myself, but I have just seen a slew of this junk out on the internet, like the "goth" warning list found by Marko who posted on his blog to call out how silly it is
Or other blogs I've been reading latley that I won't give the traffic because I don't want you to think that the majority of Christians believe the same way, that have an discouraged fashion and music style list.
If the music doesn't sound like we like, if the fashion doesn't fit in our circle, if the movie doesn't agree with your opinions, often those are what we'll through into worldlyness.
For instance in my list, brand-name clothes, suits and ties, expensive haircuts, expensive jewelry, country music. Would all be things I would say contain things that are opposing the Gospel and shouldn't be indulged in by a Christian.
But what of these things is explicitly condemned in scripture? I could site verses about good stewardship, bring up things about materialism and loving your enemy (that last one to all the post-9/11 country music that came out...)
But those all require a jump. So while for myself, I'll steer clear of them, even though I don't like those things, I'm not in a position to shout from the rooftops that Christians must abandon these things, or even as a Christian leader to say that to those looking for my instruction.
It's not that I'm going to say they are good things, but rather I'm not going to condemn them. I'll chalk it up to me not being in those cultures.
You're not any less Christian to believe differently about how those things apply to those verses. One of us may still be wrong, but it's definitly with in the realm of our freedom as Christians.
The problem is styles of music and dress that fit the cultures bad list, seep into out definitions of worldly too. Hard music, darkly colored clothing, piercings in places we don't have them, spiked jewlry, hairstyles that don't appear in the Sears catalouge. These often get lumped in easy cause they are subcultures that are hip to look down on.
But it's just as ridiculous as me calling you out for listening to country and having a clothing label's title on your shirt. But since it's more acceptable in the culture to call the harder things out, the similarities often fall aside.
I think we have to accept the fact that things we don't like, can still be in bounds for a Christian, that things we don't like are not automatically "worldly" or "fleshy"
If it's something that was tied to sin for yourself, ask yourself if it's sin in itself. I know someone who had to steer clear of concerts with harder music. He didn't believie harder music to be a sin but it was so tied to sins he was involved in that no matter how neutral or reedeming the lyrics, it wasn't a place he could go.
That's more the atittitude we need to practice even when it goes beyond opinion to personal struggles, to know that we approach God and the world differently and if I had to give up EVERYTHING that has EVER tempted anyone, I'd have to give up everything from Playing Cards to Cutlery to the Bible (Satan used it to tempt Jesus).
I'd be in a sterile room waiting to die, medicated to keep my own imagination out and to keep me from dreaming, because everything can be a temptation.
But let's be more careful and honest about what is worldly and what just isn't us.

